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		<title>By: Jesus vs. Jesus and Smoking Hopium : Wired4Film</title>
		<link>http://www.wired4film.com/inside/2009/04/christian-music-industry-is-dying-will-film-follow/comment-page-1/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesus vs. Jesus and Smoking Hopium : Wired4Film</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 15:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you feel that latest earthquake?  The epicenter is located in what Bob Briner refers to as the Christian Ghetto.  Well you should have because there&#8217;s a rumble in the Bronx brewing and it&#8217;s gonna [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you feel that latest earthquake?  The epicenter is located in what Bob Briner refers to as the Christian Ghetto.  Well you should have because there&#8217;s a rumble in the Bronx brewing and it&#8217;s gonna [...]</p>
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		<title>By: S David Acuff</title>
		<link>http://www.wired4film.com/inside/2009/04/christian-music-industry-is-dying-will-film-follow/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>S David Acuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@camthecameraman - agreed.  We&#039;re commanded to make disciples, love our neighbors as ourselves, etc.  But, beyond that each of us was specifically hard-wired for a task or purpose on this planet.  And that came from before we were knit together in the womb...God knew us.  I&#039;ll blog about it more soon b/c it&#039;s a central theme to this site, but I&#039;m not saying anyone is called to media above anything else, but there are a select group that are wired to make movies.  Just as some are called to teach, some are called to Medicine or sports or Politics (God bless &#039;em!) 

@AngelaCinema - welcome to the site!  And, yes, we are definitely equal opportunity advertisers, you cheeky monkey.  We&#039;d even throw on a banner ad for ChristianCinema.com!  (No, srsly, call us  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@camthecameraman &#8211; agreed.  We&#8217;re commanded to make disciples, love our neighbors as ourselves, etc.  But, beyond that each of us was specifically hard-wired for a task or purpose on this planet.  And that came from before we were knit together in the womb&#8230;God knew us.  I&#8217;ll blog about it more soon b/c it&#8217;s a central theme to this site, but I&#8217;m not saying anyone is called to media above anything else, but there are a select group that are wired to make movies.  Just as some are called to teach, some are called to Medicine or sports or Politics (God bless &#8216;em!) </p>
<p>@AngelaCinema &#8211; welcome to the site!  And, yes, we are definitely equal opportunity advertisers, you cheeky monkey.  We&#8217;d even throw on a banner ad for ChristianCinema.com!  (No, srsly, call us  <img src='http://www.wired4film.com/inside/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: AngelaCinema</title>
		<link>http://www.wired4film.com/inside/2009/04/christian-music-industry-is-dying-will-film-follow/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>AngelaCinema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I think it&#039;s interesting that you&#039;re not a fan of the Christian ghetto (for film or music), but you have advertising from the ghetto on the site...

We have to be careful of general statements applied to a wide range of people. There are hundreds of Christian filmmakers out there - perhaps a better way to describe them is as filmmakers who are Christians. Yes, there are many who&#039;ve gotten on the bandwagon and think they need to be the next Sherwood Pictures, but maybe their calling is to that paradigm.

If we applied the line of reasoning to some other profession - like say, pastors - then would we say we shouldn&#039;t have pastors because they only preach to the church? Are evangelists then elevated because they go outside of the church? Or are missionaries at the top of the hierarchy because they go to unchurched places?

Everyone has their calling, and sometimes it&#039;s specifically to minister to the church. Others are called to go outside to the world. To put a stamp on everyone and say they must all do something &amp; be something is to negate the amazing creativity of God who made us all unique.

Do those who call themselves &quot;Christian filmmakers&quot; need to produce high-quality professional work? Yes! Should those who feel called to use only volunteers from their church strive for greater excellence in their work? Yes. But to say that what they do isn&#039;t valid? Or shouldn&#039;t be done? I don&#039;t think we can do that.

Phil &amp; BMC are for those who can work within the industry - not everyone can do that. I&#039;ve interviewed countless people who are working in Hollywood that say it&#039;s not for everyone, so we shouldn&#039;t try to force anyone into that mold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I think it&#8217;s interesting that you&#8217;re not a fan of the Christian ghetto (for film or music), but you have advertising from the ghetto on the site&#8230;</p>
<p>We have to be careful of general statements applied to a wide range of people. There are hundreds of Christian filmmakers out there &#8211; perhaps a better way to describe them is as filmmakers who are Christians. Yes, there are many who&#8217;ve gotten on the bandwagon and think they need to be the next Sherwood Pictures, but maybe their calling is to that paradigm.</p>
<p>If we applied the line of reasoning to some other profession &#8211; like say, pastors &#8211; then would we say we shouldn&#8217;t have pastors because they only preach to the church? Are evangelists then elevated because they go outside of the church? Or are missionaries at the top of the hierarchy because they go to unchurched places?</p>
<p>Everyone has their calling, and sometimes it&#8217;s specifically to minister to the church. Others are called to go outside to the world. To put a stamp on everyone and say they must all do something &amp; be something is to negate the amazing creativity of God who made us all unique.</p>
<p>Do those who call themselves &#8220;Christian filmmakers&#8221; need to produce high-quality professional work? Yes! Should those who feel called to use only volunteers from their church strive for greater excellence in their work? Yes. But to say that what they do isn&#8217;t valid? Or shouldn&#8217;t be done? I don&#8217;t think we can do that.</p>
<p>Phil &amp; BMC are for those who can work within the industry &#8211; not everyone can do that. I&#8217;ve interviewed countless people who are working in Hollywood that say it&#8217;s not for everyone, so we shouldn&#8217;t try to force anyone into that mold.</p>
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		<title>By: lonerangerone</title>
		<link>http://www.wired4film.com/inside/2009/04/christian-music-industry-is-dying-will-film-follow/comment-page-1/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>lonerangerone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my professors at Calvin College, William David Romanowski - who became friends with Briner just before he died - used this example...

Which would you rather go to:

A mechanic who had a fish in the phonebook ad, but he treated you just like any other mechanic - even slightly unethically perhaps, because &quot;that&#039;s how everyone works&quot;

or 

A mechanic who does excellent, far above average work for a fair price and makes sure that everything his customer needs is taken care of, and when asked why he does such quality work, has a door opened to share the Gospel of Jesus as the source of his committment to excellence.

Charlie&#039;s right and there&#039;s no reason for there to even be a Christian film industry - there really isn&#039;t much of one anyways, the notables really just Cloud 10, Namesake and the Kendrick&#039;s (Fireproof, Facing the Giants).

Besides, look at Phil Cooke and Ralph Winter and the Biola Media folks - there are plenty of folks entrenched in positions of influence in the &quot;real&quot; industry - we don&#039;t need to populate yet another ghetto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my professors at Calvin College, William David Romanowski &#8211; who became friends with Briner just before he died &#8211; used this example&#8230;</p>
<p>Which would you rather go to:</p>
<p>A mechanic who had a fish in the phonebook ad, but he treated you just like any other mechanic &#8211; even slightly unethically perhaps, because &#8220;that&#8217;s how everyone works&#8221;</p>
<p>or </p>
<p>A mechanic who does excellent, far above average work for a fair price and makes sure that everything his customer needs is taken care of, and when asked why he does such quality work, has a door opened to share the Gospel of Jesus as the source of his committment to excellence.</p>
<p>Charlie&#8217;s right and there&#8217;s no reason for there to even be a Christian film industry &#8211; there really isn&#8217;t much of one anyways, the notables really just Cloud 10, Namesake and the Kendrick&#8217;s (Fireproof, Facing the Giants).</p>
<p>Besides, look at Phil Cooke and Ralph Winter and the Biola Media folks &#8211; there are plenty of folks entrenched in positions of influence in the &#8220;real&#8221; industry &#8211; we don&#8217;t need to populate yet another ghetto.</p>
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		<title>By: Thursday Thoughts &#124; Circle 37</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thursday Thoughts &#124; Circle 37</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a follow up to my post here, Wired4Film has a very interesting post about the Death of Christian Music. It&#8217;s a pretty sobering overview of Christian Media in general. I thought it relevant, adding [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a follow up to my post here, Wired4Film has a very interesting post about the Death of Christian Music. It&#8217;s a pretty sobering overview of Christian Media in general. I thought it relevant, adding [...]</p>
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		<title>By: camthecameraman</title>
		<link>http://www.wired4film.com/inside/2009/04/christian-music-industry-is-dying-will-film-follow/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>camthecameraman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always been of the opinion that we are called to &quot;make disciples&quot; not &quot;make media&quot;.  Now while I understand the importance of being an influencer of culture and engaging in the world we live, ultimately Christ told us to &quot;make disciples&quot; therefore everything we do, in ministry and life needs to be honouring of Christ &quot;great commandment&quot;.  

Is this program going to &quot;make disciples&quot; or &quot;entertain disciples&quot; becomes an interesting dilemma. What if during the process of making the program we &quot;made disciples&quot; by bringing the unsaved or recently saved or searching for the production journey. Surely then whether the programs entertains, challenges, disciples we can say we have &quot;made disciples&quot; during the production process thus honouring Christs command to us and making media that changes a generation.

I once said to a producer who I was working with on a production that I didnt care if his show was unsccessful or even aired, shocked he asked why. I pointed out that during the production process the non-christian students that I worked on the shoot were challenged about matters of faith and as such the production was already a success, we had begun &quot;making disciples&quot; in the production phase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always been of the opinion that we are called to &#8220;make disciples&#8221; not &#8220;make media&#8221;.  Now while I understand the importance of being an influencer of culture and engaging in the world we live, ultimately Christ told us to &#8220;make disciples&#8221; therefore everything we do, in ministry and life needs to be honouring of Christ &#8220;great commandment&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Is this program going to &#8220;make disciples&#8221; or &#8220;entertain disciples&#8221; becomes an interesting dilemma. What if during the process of making the program we &#8220;made disciples&#8221; by bringing the unsaved or recently saved or searching for the production journey. Surely then whether the programs entertains, challenges, disciples we can say we have &#8220;made disciples&#8221; during the production process thus honouring Christs command to us and making media that changes a generation.</p>
<p>I once said to a producer who I was working with on a production that I didnt care if his show was unsccessful or even aired, shocked he asked why. I pointed out that during the production process the non-christian students that I worked on the shoot were challenged about matters of faith and as such the production was already a success, we had begun &#8220;making disciples&#8221; in the production phase.</p>
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